It's the division of two areas of reality, saying that there is more than one way of knowing. For religion, I go to my bible, for the empirical world, I go to my micro/tele/stethoscope. This compartmentalization of critical thinking happens in more places than the classroom and outside class, religion and science, but I'm going to stick with these two examples for now. I am arguing that what you learn in biology about evolution isn't just true on the test, it's true in the rest of the world. What you learn in sociology about race and class inequality isn't just a simple topic for your paper, it's based on facts about the reality that we live in. But most of us shut down these systems when we pack up and go home for the summer, the weekend, or even just tonight for this party. Nothing kills a person's buzz quite like reminding them that they're wrong, despite the fact that they learned the right answer."...we get the age of rocks, and religion retains the rock of ages; we study how the heavens go, and they determine how to go to heaven."
This does not happen to everyone, but it happens to enough people for it to be concerning. It is the explanation for how we have wonderful scientists such as Dr. Francis Collins, the head of the NIH, who happens to be a devout Christian. He keeps his religion and science separate. He doesn't tell his colleagues not to run tests, but rather to pray. He does not attribute the success of the treatments at the NIH to God's will (at least, publicly). So why is there a problem? He is still compartmentalizing his critical thinking. He is using it in one area of his life (his work) and not applying it in others (his personal).
To get an idea what I'm talking about, think about a very simple concept that is basic to all religions: prayer. The idea that someone who does science for a living could at the same time believe in prayer is a complete division of reality within the mind of that individual. The issue with prayer is that it has zero verifiability. If it did, if it worked with the certainty you might expect from such a popular activity, then we could just fucking pray away world hunger, racism, and give each of us a million-dollar mansion to live in. Prayer seems to only give us things that could have happened in the absence of prayer. In fact, whenever we attempt to measure the effect of prayer, we have either found no effect, or (ironically) the opposite effect.
Critical thinking isn't always easy, but you actually do it more than you might know. Imagine this scenario: you attempt to turn on your TV with the remote and yet nothing happens when you press the "on" button. The first thing to pop into your head is probably not something along the lines of "god is punishing me" or "evil demons have destroyed my tv." No, you're probably (no matter how religious you are) bound to come up with a physical, natural explanation. The batteries in the remote might be dead, so you switch them from your DVD remote and see if they work. They don't, so you switch them back into the DVD remote to make sure THOSE aren't dead either. When in the DVD remote, they work fine, so it's not the batteries. You attempt to turn the TV on with the power switch on the front but nothing happens. You think the TV itself may have died, but there are other things to check first. You look behind the TV and notice that the plug had merely come out of the socket. You plug it back in and the world as you know it returns.
We have all probably done something like this before. And guess what? You were doing science! You (very quickly) created hypotheses and tested them, looking for results. Why is it easy to think critically in this situation and not others? The easy answer is that the results are instant. With the concept of prayer, you have to wait. And when you have to wait for as long as you do, such as for God to send you a husband, or for your depression to go away, or to get a promotion at your job, then you really have no way of telling if it worked. But, you may remember that you prayed about it. And when you credit prayer, you ignore the fact that you may have done hard work and earned the promotion, that serendipitous circumstance led you to your latest love, or that the medication you're taking is actually responsible for your good mood. In this sense, prayer is antithetical to understanding our world, because it robs us of actual explanations.
So whenever I hear someone say, "Stop making me think!" because I am pointing out their inconsistencies, it makes me sad. It could be that they're a biblical literalist and yet they claim to support gay rights - you can't have it both ways. Or when someone writes that they "don't trust science" from a computer whose technology could not have been built without thousands of scientists doing their job every day. Or when my friends with PhD's--whose job it is to think critically--tell me that they see psychics.
I'm not going to stop making you think, because I believe it is the most important thing you can do.
Not into prayer myself, but I'm quite convinced that citing any scientist who is a Christian as an automatic example of lack of critical thinking is faulty.
ReplyDeleteYour and my beliefs aside, I think it's not polite to assume that someone has failed to exercise the power of thinking just because they are inclined towards prayer. Einstein actually adressed science and prayer in a very sweet way: http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/05/dear-einstein-do-scientists-pray.html
(Letters of Note is an AMAZING blog!)
I'm sure you'll disagree with part of his answer, especially when he says that everyone seriously involved in the pursuit becomes aware of a manifest spirit. But at the very least, I think that it is evident that Einstein devoted some thought to the issue that was both earnest and critical.
As for whether Christians can support gay rights, I recommend checking out John Shore. He's a very gifted writer and thinker, and has a ton of good essays.
I don't understand your first sentence. I'm saying that these christian scientists compartmentalize their critical thinking in that they apply it in their science and don't apply it when it comes to concepts like prayer.
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I am seriously confused where Einstein writes "everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that some spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe"
He has said some pantheistic comments in other places as well. To me, pantheism is just a semantic differential with agnosticism/atheism since there is a lack of the supernatural and a lack of a personal god of any kind.
I know plenty of christians who support gay rights. My point is that if you believe that the bible is the infalible word of God, and you follow the bible, then you cannot just pick and choose what appeals to you.
Sorry I was unclear with my first sentence. I'm saying that one shouldn't just look at/read about an accomplished scientist who is also a devout Christian and proceed to point at him/her and exclaim, "Here is an example of someone who compartmentalized their critical thinking!"
ReplyDeleteI mean, have you spoken to Francis Collins about both his career and his faith? Have you read his book The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief, or researched the foundation he set up which is focused on promoting discourse between the scientific and religious communities? Are you aware that he has railed against "casual agnosticism" in the scientific community, deeming it a shame that many scientists who do not bother to carefully examine the evidence for and against faith and reach some sort of definitive conclusion?
It seems pretty clear to me that Francis Collins does in fact place a high value in using rigorous examination and critical thinking in regards to his personal life and faith as well as his work, and therefore your diagnosis (scientist + Christian = compartmentalization of critical thought) seemed hasty and unfair. Disagree with him all you like, but saying that he has not thought out his position is incorrect!
I wished to point out a similar thing with that link about Einstein. Sure, YOU don't encounter what you consider to be evidence of a spiritual force in your pursuit of science. However, a good number of scientists do encounter what they consider to be legitimate evidence, and I think that it is both mean and impolite to write off this phenomenon as "oh, they're just failing to apply critical thought." Maybe, just maybe, they are using critical thought and it's leading them to different conclusions than the one you have reached?
After all, there is something to be said for arguing against an opponent's views without heaping scorn on their ability to argue their own points.
I met Francis Collins (briefly) earlier this year at the National Science Expo in DC. He was very nice and I commended him on the job he was doing. I have not yet read his book although I've been meaning to for quite some time. So in a sense, yes, it was unfair as I have not analyzed his arguments extensively. He was merely someone I thought represented a power that could be religious and also do science. The issue that I'm highlighting is that whatever standards of proof he applies to coming to conclusions in science, those are clearly not applied in his life IF he is religious. The fact of the matter is that none of the claims about religion measure up to these standards. So as much as many people would love for their particular brand of theism to be true, wishing it to be does not make it so.
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Untestable hypotheses and personal experience are not evidence. You seem to lack a crucial understanding of the nature of scientific rigor. You can't just say "maybe they used critical thought and it led them to different conclusions." Demonstrate this to me. Show me how they were critically examining the evidence, how they were searching for the nature of reality, how they were honestly absolving themselves of dogma and paying attention to only the facts - then show me where they ended up. Since you have not done this, you are just speculating in an attempt to refute me which boils down to "Well man, maybe you're like, wrong!" And I could be wrong, I'm open to being wrong about anything. You're just making a bad argument and I thought you should know that.
I'm not even saying that maybe, like, you're wrong, man. I usually find myself in complete agreement with you on theological matters. What I'm trying to advocate for here is the importance of respectful discourse, and to a smaller extent the importance of not making assumptions and generalizations.
ReplyDeleteYou ask for demonstrations to back up my arguments, but have you really provided any specific ones for your own? Can you point to something in Francis Collins' work, in his book or in the foundation he set up, and say, "HERE. Here is a clear example of Francis Collins blindly adhering to (this piece of dogma) while ignoring (this fact)." If you can't do that, than your argument about him is unsubstantiated.
But hey, I'm making assumptions about the guy too. I haven't read his book. I'm just assuming he's a great thinker because he's the head of NIH and has made significant contributions to the Human Genome Project, and because he places such high value on discourse between the scientific and religious communities (encouraging communication between these groups is a goal I really, really respect). And I heard him talk once and found him impressive and endearing.
So why don't we both challenge our assumptions? I challenge you to actually read his book, and discuss it with me after we both finish it. Maybe you'll gain some respect for his critical examination of the evidence, maybe we'll be confronted with some glaring lapses in logic, maybe both will happen. Either way, I think it'd be interesting, and afterwards you'd be able to critique the guy in a way that's both more intelligent and more fair. So, ya down?
And if you're not willing to spend a little time doing background research on your claims, oh well!
I will read his book and then we can have a discussion. The last thing I want is to be accused of not doing my background research.
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